After reading so many articles I feel compelled to write this. I am sickened by the media who seem to be continually stirring up trouble at the Emirates. Robin Van Persie is an exceptional footballer who has had his best ever season, and remained injury free. But reports that Manchester City are willing to pay over £250,000 a week wages are nothing short baiting the player to leave, if you look around Manchester City the proof is already there that this tactic works. Nasri, Clichy, Toure, Adebayor and the back room staff Vieira and Platt both ex-Arsenal players are there behind the scenes helping to plot and lure the cream of the Arsenal squad away. With out Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy we got Third place. What could we have achieved if they had stayed
I for one have been an advocate of R.V.P all season and I deeply want him to remain at Arsenal, but that said, I cannot and will not believe any player is worth that sort of money in wages. Man City are creating a monster and if R.V.P is tempted away then let him go after seeing his contract out. But this will leave us with a big problem, that instead of Arsenal attracting WORLD CLASS players, we just cannot retain them. We make them and sell them thus becoming a feeder club. I honestly believe that R.V.P owes Arsenal for sticking by him through all his injury problems and showing faith in him when many would have shown him the door. Would Man City have done what Arsenal have done over the last 8yrs. I very much doubt it, so for that alone he should stay. We must do everything in our power to convince him to stay but if he leaves let it be abroad, because I would not be able to stomach him wearing a Man City or Man Utd shirt.
Anzhi ‘Will Offer £300k a Week to Van Persie’
Big-spending Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala are said to be ready to offer Robin van Persie a £300,000-a-week pay packet to move east.
Anzhi are managed by van Persie’s Dutch compatriot Guus Hiddink and according to the Sunday Mirror Hiddink has been told by the club’s owner, Suleyman Kerimov, one of the richest men in the world, that he can pay up to £300,000 a week nett of tax in order to land some of the world’s top talent.
The Russian side landed Samuel Eto’o from Inter Milan last summer as part of Kerimov’s aim to create one of Europe’s top sides. However, this season has been something of a disappointment. Anzhi only just scraped into the Russian Premier League’s top eight split and will have to make do with a place in the second qualifying round of the Europa League than the Champions League.
Given that van Persie is driven by the need to win trophies rather than money it is difficult to see him opting for a move to Anzhi. The van Persie family are believed to be happy and settled in London and it would take a huge bid to tempt him to the Russian League.
Anzhi are based in war-torn Dagestan and the club’s players all live and train in Moscow, over 1100 miles away, only flying to their home stadium for matchdays and flying straight back home again after the match.
Van Persie is more likely to stick to the major European leagues of England, Italy and Spain for his next move despite a potential bid from Anzhi dwarfing anything Arsenal could offer.
I really cannot see this happening, but never say never.
Ok now Holland are out of the Euro's maybe , just maybe he will sign on the dotted line.... because in all three games Van Persie was shown for what he is...only as good as the team around him. Holland have some great players but are a diabolical team. The individuals do not gel as a team, and Van the man is in a great team with Arsenal, Man City may pay him better, but he will never get the adolation from their fans he does from the gooners.
Former England and Lancashire star Neil Fairbrother fuelled speculation that Robin van Persie is considering a move to Manchester after claiming he saw the Arsenal striker lunching in Hale.
Blues boss Roberto Mancini has made Van Persie his No 1 target this summer as he looks to make world-class additions to his Premier League champions.
United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson is also keen on last season's Premier League leading scorer, who is out of contract next summer.
Van Persie is set to make a decision about his future following Holland's elimination from Euro 2012.
Fairbrother, the former agent of Freddie Flintoff, wrote on his Twitter account yesterday: "Just grabbing some lunch in Hale – RVP just walked in! long way from Emirates!!!#redorblue?"
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger remains convinced he can keep hold of the Dutch international though.
"I am certain Robin will remain with us," he said.
Van Persie too good for 'low-level' Serie A, claims Wenger
The Frenchman has scoffed at rumours linking the Gunners ace with a move to Italy, branding the Italian top flight an inferior competition to the English Premier League
The Dutch international's future at the Emirates is hanging in the air, with his current contract expiring next summer and talks on a new deal progressing at a slow pace.
Italian champions Juventus have been linked with a move for the striker, but Wenger laughed off the rumour, saying a move to Italy would mark a step down for the Arsenal skipper.
"In Italy there are big problems and your league is at a level lower than the Premier League. Serie A is at a low level now," he was quoted as saying by Corriere dello Sport.
"There is no reason at all why a great player like [Van Persie] should come and play with you, in Italy, in your league.
"Football players get paid better in England, you have not heard of the new television contracts?
"The Italian league was once extraordinary, and I remember well, when the league had 16 teams and each team had their own champion. Now it is not the case."
Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have also been linked with Van Persie, who was last season's top scorer in England with 37 goals in all competitions.
Mancini Wants Quick Van Persie Deal
Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini wants to make a move for Arsenal striker Robin van Persie before any of his current forwards are sold.
The City boss said earlier this month that he would not be looking to sign another forward unless he sells one of the strikers already at the club but according to the Daily Mirror Mancini is keen to wrap up a deal for van Persie as soon as possible.
It was reported yesterday that City agreed a £225,000-a-week deal with the Dutchman as long ago as March and that just the transfer fee remains to be sorted. However, the Mirror claims that City’s hierarchy are adamant that one of Carlos Tevez, Edin Dzeko, Roque Santa Cruz and Emmanuel Adebayor must be moved on first.
Mancini may also find the club’s top brass keen to pay only £15million for the 28-year-old who is valued by Arsenal at twice that amount.
However, van Persie could yet stay with Arsenal, according to some reports. He is currently on holiday and will resume talks on his return but the BBC’s reporter David Ornstein claimed yesterday that he could yet see out his contract with Arsenal if no new deal is agreed. Arsenal have offered a new contract worth £130,000 a week.
So silly season has already started and Van Persie is now being linked to French side PSG. I don't quite understand how the papers are even making rumours on our Flying Dutchman when he's on holiday at the moment. It is an insane idea to even entertain the prospect that he's thinking of his future whilst on holiday. The whole point of a holiday is to get away from your real life.
Then we inspect the actual plausibility of this rumour. Why on Earth would Robin Van Persie want to leave for a club in France? No disrespect to the French league but it's hardly a top league in Europe. Even with PSG's financial clout, they still managed to end up second in a league where you'd consider it a one horse race. I understand Montpellier were truly amazing and some of their players were as well (*cough* Giroud *cough*) but you still shouldn't end up second in a monopoly of a league.
PSG are some way off being good enough to properly challenge in Europe – even if they manage to secure the signings of RVP, Lavezzi and Thiago Silva. This season gone has proven that regardless of money, they aren't coherent enough as a unit to win silverware. That might change next season in Ligue 1 but they will never beat teams like Barcelona and Madrid without unity. I fully believe that Arsenal always have a chance against the biggest teams in Europe because we fight as a unit.
If there is truth behind these rumours and that RVP is actually considering a move to France, it truly shows how broken football is. For Arsenal to lose a player to a French team, you know there is something wrong in the footballing world.
My personal opinion is that these rumours are completely unfounded and it’s just an extension of the lazy journalism we see in the world today.
Pokeracer says: The bigest load of rubbish I have read about R.V.P to date, these guys just make things up so that they have an R.V.P story to sell their papers. The problem is this will not help in the slightest as regards to getting Van Persie to stay, it will only stoke the fire that burns in some angry gooners who will actually believe this tripe. Thus unsettling him further and asking why he should bother to stay.
Robin is refusing to sign a new contract, goodbye R.V.P....He should do himself a favour and not sign for another british club, go abroad and stay abroad, because I for one feel totaly betrayed by him...He had one exeptional season and now thinks we lack ambition. I would not class him as a Na$ri or Ca$hly Cole, but he is no Henry or Bergkamp either, they performed season after season for us. His whole performance at the euro's for Holland showed us that unless he is within a team that plays around him and to his strengths, then he looks decidedly unspectacular. I wish I could give him a fine farewell, but I can't. Good bye, more like good riddance. Regardless of what football pundits, commentators and managers say about him. He will be replaced and a new hero will be born...Podolski? Giroud or Adrian Lopez? if we purchase him....which I would not put past Wenger now. Arsenal will continue
There are more than three weeks left in the transfer window and there's only one club left in the hunt for Robin van Persie.
Well, two actually.
That's because everyone appears to have disregarded Arsenal in this and just assumed that van Persie would be sold to the highest bidder.
Manchester United are the last club standing in the battle to sign van Persie. Van Persie has told Juventus he doesn't want to join them.
And in one of those conversations that are not supposed to take place between club and player, van Persie has done the same with Manchester City. So much for that being a done deal.
There's been interest from other mega wealthy clubs - Paris Saint Germain and Anzhi Makhachkala - but it's never got off the ground because he doesn't want to go to either of those.
I think he was seriously tempted by Juventus - until their title-winning coach Antonio Conte got embroiled in Italy's match fixing scandal. As someone in van Persie's management company tweeted, it was "hardly the advert" to go to Italy .
So it's Manchester United or bust for van Persie. And the fact is that Arsenal do not want to sell to a direct Premier League rival . That would be the same were City still in the running.
These days, people assume when a deal like this gathers momentum the it's just a matter of time before it happens, such is the power of the player in getting what he wants.
Trouble is, it is very apparent from talking to people (for the millionth time this summer) close to the deal on Wednesday that Arsenal do not want to sell to Manchester United. Full stop.
They see them as a direct rival. While Juventus might have had an offer accepted for £20m, the price for United is higher. I actually think £25m is a conservative estimate. If Arsene Wenger has his way then it will be £30m.
This has become a point of principle, a real issue for Wenger. And if anyone doubts whether the board can be resolute on transfers, just think back to 2010.
Cesc Fabregas wanted to go to Barcelona. Chief executive Ivan Gazidis refused to sell, steadfastly stuck to his guns, made Fabregas wait for 12 months, got a better price and eventually sold to Barcelona.
It became a point of principle
Arsenal are similarly digging in over van Persie and unless United hit the right price then they will not sell.
Surely United won't top £20m for a player who is 29, with a poor injury record, one world class season in eight and will have no resale value in three years? Arsenal don't think they will.
However, if they do, then Arsenal might change their stance and sell for a price that is hard to refuse. Maybe on August 25 (few deals ever happen overnight) they may be tempted to lower their sights and sell rather than risk losing him for free next summer.
But that wasn't the impression I got on Wednesday. Arsenal have a price and United have to reach it.
Wenger is entrenched over this because last year it was Fabregas and Samir Nasri, this year it's van Persie. Who will it be next year? He wants to draw a line. I think Wenger, Arsenal and the board deserve credit for that. They may still sell for the right price, but now they are not going to be bullied by Manchester United.
It's a really tricky one because van Persie, according to the rest of the dressing room, has been focused, determined and working well . He's put his head down and you'd never know this saga is going on around him.
There's every chance he'll stay with the training camp in Germany and play in Sunday's friendly with Cologne. Crucially, Arsenal still believe they may persuade him to stay.
His attitude has suggested that he would not sulk even if a move to United does not happen. It's in marked contrast to that of Fabregas last summer, who was desperate to join Barcelona and sulked all his way back to Spain.
However, if you analyse Arsenal's signings they are hedging their bets in case van Persie goes. Olivier Giroud: centre forward. Santi Cazorla: new playmaker to fill number ten role. Lukas Podolski can play wide, through the middle or just behind.
There's still a long way to go in this saga yet and Arsenal are being tough - but also realistic. The lessons have been learnt from last summer when they were forced into a mad supermarket sweep when Nasri went at the last minute.
Thankfully, they got the supermarket manager's bargain of the week with Mikel Arteta (what a buy he's proved to be!).
My feeling is United will come back with another offer. Then Arsenal must decide whether to stick or twist. Van Persie has gone public in saying he will not re-sign with the club . Can they tempt him to re-sign during the season? Or risk losing him for nothing.
But it was rather amusing to read Sir Alex Ferguson's comments said after United's friendly in Gothenburg on Wednesday night.
Ferguson said: "We have made a bid and they've been trying to negotiate with other clubs. I don't have a gut feeling on it at the moment, I must admit.
"We're not getting any breakthrough with Arsenal. It's difficult to say why they're operating this way. I don't know what their thoughts are, because they're not giving anything away."
I hate the Twitter tit-for-tat generation. If you praise or criticise then a keyboard warrior jumps on you and says: 'yeah, but what about this?' Or: 'you said this in 2005.' Blimey, time to get out more. A tweet has only got 140 characters. You can't fit War And Peace on Twitter.
But, I'm going to risk becoming a keyboard warrior for a moment.
I was trying to think of times when Ferguson wouldn't sell a player to another specific club. Someone on Twitter duly reminded me.
Back in 2007, United had a similar saga when Gabriel Heinze wanted to move from Old Trafford to Liverpool, their deadly rivals.
Ferguson blocked it because it was Liverpool. It's deeply personal between Ferguson and Liverpool. But moreover, it was a direct rival. He didn't want to strengthen them.
Ferguson said at the time: "I can assure you, Liverpool will not be getting Gabriel Heinze. We can put that to bed right now and we have done so. We have had a couple offers for him and we have turned them down.
"Heinze's agents are rolling the ball all the time. But no matter what his agent thinks, we are in the driving seat.
"I don't exactly know what Gaby thinks because it is all coming from his agent but this has been going on for a year and a half now."
Heinze eventually went to Real Madrid that summer. Not Liverpool.
So when Ferguson talks about not understanding Arsenal's thought process, maybe Heinze can provide a timely reminder.
Finally, what about van Persie himself? Will he be accepted by Arsenal fans if he ends up staying after this whole saga?
Yes. If he scores a hat trick against Tottenham then that will buy him forgiveness.
I do think fans want to see Thomas Vermaelen made captain, though, whatever happens. A captain shouldn't flirt with another club (even though Fabregas did).
But fans do forgive and forget. Unless you are Emmanuel Adebayor who got booed when he stayed for another year. However, if van Persie goes to Old Trafford. then there's no way back. He'll be public enemy number one.
I wrote a column some weeks ago suggesting if van Persie went to Juventus then he'd remain a legend and fans would forgive . I even likened it to Liam Brady remaining a legend at Arsenal because he chose Juventus in the 80s while Frank Stapleton went to Manchester United and was seen as a greedy traitor. He's never been forgiven and never will. He's not a former Arsenal player as far as Arsenal fans are concerned. He is ex-United.
If van Persie went to Manchester City then he'd be public enemy number one, a traitor and would disgust Arsenal fans. There's too much history, too many players to have been tempted by City's millions and van Persie would be a hate figure.
I suggested Manchester United would not be quite as bad. Arsenal fans might understand his desire for trophies over City's cash. It would be bad, he'd be a hate figure, but not quite as bad as if he were to join City.
How wrong I was.
I got floods of replies saying that United was every bit as bad - if not worse. I put that partly down to newer fans seeing United as bigger rivals than Tottenham. That will never be the case with old school fans.
But van Persie will never be forgiven for going to United. He, like Stapleton, will no longer be a former Arsenal player let alone a legend. He will be ex-United when he retires. Thanks, good night and shut the door behind you
So, make no mistake. The next few weeks will decide how van Persie is remembered. He could yet start the season at Arsenal as Nasri did last year - and then move. If United come back with a huge offer then he could go very quickly.
By John Cross Daily Mirror Reporter.
Pokeracer says: This man knows what he is talking about and has expressed my veiws on this precisely, thanks John!!
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